But you’re right, there’s a definite hint of d in there. However, when representing a /ð/ sound blackletter capital "D" is always followed by an "h" even when lowercase d is dotted (see second example below).
Thanks!I think some of the instances where you have heard “dd” might have been where the speaker may have been using English prior to pronouncing the word/name with the “dd” in it (in Huw Edwards’ case). The rules for the pronunciation of 'y' are as follows"10.


ALWAYS pronounced as the 'th' in 'then'. In fact, I can’t imagine monolingually English language Welsh people round this area pronouncing it like that, whatever the circumstances!As Jeffanderson and Stu point out, it may be just that the sound can be only subtly different if people are speaking quickly.When speaking quickly, the sounds can be hard to distinguish - but that’s the same for any similar sounds in any language, not just Welsh!Having said that, I can imagine someone saying “cwpwrd” as an alternative [Just checking, the GPC actually has “cwpwrd” listed as an alternative for “cwpwrdd”. In medieval Welsh manuscripts, words which in modern Welsh are spelled with double d are almost always spelled with a single "d" (or sometimes "t"). Note that 'dd,' 'ff' and 'll' are not doubled, but are consonants in their own right. the digraphs Ch, Dd, Ff, Ng, Ll, Ph, Rh, and Th are considered as single characters, and collate after C, D, F, G, L, P, R, and T respectively. 2 Realize that Welsh is a phonetic language. DDis the soft 'th' sound, as in that, NOT as in middle. '. Examples - The Country Duo John ac Alun singing “Bydd Gyda Mi” …

Apart from the obscure sound of 'y', 'i', 'u' and 'y' are pronounced in essentially the same way in South This is the kind of thing that shows how much your lsitening is conditioned by your mother tongue. A sort of very soft, partially voiced ‘d’ I guess this probably depends on the surrounding sounds and how carefully the person is enunciating.But that’s just my impression from listening. C is the Welsh K. It is always hard, as in can or cane, never soft as in once. You have to have a very, very good ear to differentuate between a short ‘dd’ and ‘d’!!! 5. ch /x/ Like the Scottish loch. I finally said something to which he said, “That’s right!” But it wasn’t and I knew it. In medieval Welsh manuscripts, words which in modern Welsh are spelled with double d are almost always spelled with a single "d" (or sometimes "t"). I see the whole word “Rhondda” and that immediately calls up from my memory stores decades of hearing other English speakers saying “Ronda”, and therefore, so do I. I even used to pronounce “Cwm Rhondda” (as in the hymn tune) as “Coom Ronda”, but that definitely sounds wrong to me now (as of course it should).Hang on - changing the subject as is my wont - are you the Gareth King of “Modern Welsh” etc?Hang on - changing the subject as is my wont - are you the Gareth King of “Modern Welsh” etc?He is and has been on the site quite a lot lately, Huw, answering questions. from JackieI think with the Rhondda example, you do sometimes get (with some speakers at least) what we call ‘assimilation’ when the DD is directly preceded by N, a sound that is articulated in roughly the same place - it happens in English as well: if you say ‘that’ on its own, and then say ‘in that’, you may be able to hear a slight difference in the two th’s.

You, on the other hand, are coming from a different language background, and you can hear a different sound to me.I guess this is the same process by which people who have been speaking / learning for months or sometimes years, will suddenly start hearing a subtlety on the language that escaped them before, as your “new language” brain starts to make sense of the new patterns. the ‘middle welsh v’ character ỽand ‘middle welsh ll’ character ỻappear as wand llrespectively; the character represented by ð in Peniarth 20 appears as dd. Sometimes the long vowel is marked by a circumflex, e.g., "8. I “know” that Rhondda has a dd in it, so though I make a slightly different sound, I think it’s the same. In early printed texts, d with a dot above seems most common in blackletter type and "dh" in roman type. Fis pronounced 'v' as in veil, NOT 'f' as in fail. As everyone knows, Welsh "dd" is pronounced /ð/, but what may not be so well known is that it was not always written this way.


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